Power Washers - PTO vs Petrol (2024)

JohnBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #1

One of the many many machines on the shopping list is a power washer.

Have hired a few petrol ones recently and the 3000psi one was the job.

looking online this evening and PTO washers are way cheaper than petrol ones (obviously, no engine)

4000psi for 750
http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/4000-psi-power-washers-for-sale/7525520

http://www.jebbtools.ie/sip-13-hp-4000-psi-honda-pressure-washer

How does the hassle of mounting/dismounting the PTO pump balance against the hassle of maintaining another engine?

josh

Moderator/IT Guy
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #2

Hassle of getting petrol really would put me off it tbh, how often are you going to use the pressure washer? Normally do a spate of it when it's on, it's not hard to put it on the tractor.

houlie87

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #3

JohnBoy said:

One of the many many machines on the shopping list is a power washer.

Have hired a few petrol ones recently and the 3000psi one was the job.

looking online this evening and PTO washers are way cheaper than petrol ones (obviously, no engine)

4000psi for 750
http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/4000-psi-power-washers-for-sale/7525520

http://www.jebbtools.ie/sip-13-hp-4000-psi-honda-pressure-washer

How does the hassle of mounting/dismounting the PTO pump balance against the hassle of maintaining another engine?

I have a pto pump mounted on a chassis with a tank! I have pictures in another tread but I cant seem to upload them again! I find it handy anyways

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Funkeyfarmer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #4

Have a problem one on a small frame just pick it up the bring over to the tractor in 2 minutes then clip in the hose and drop the other house in barrel ready to go

Username

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #5

Far higher flow/greater output from a pto washer, if a tractor is available to you, and given the lower cost, you get more bang for your buck.

drew

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #7

Username said:

Far higher flow/greater output from a pto washer, if a tractor is available to you, and given the lower cost, you get more bang for your buck.

Not necessarily on the output.
We had a pto until earlier in the year, putting it on and off was a fair pain if you were washing stuff fairly regularly. Also if you want to wash a machine(mower/topper/spreader etc) you need 2 tractors free, one for the washer and one to move the machine about.

The pto one would do something like 12-15ltr/min and 540, we could have changed the nozzle and stuck it in 1000rpm and they'll do 20ltr/min at good pressure,

The petrol one we have on the other hand is 22ltr/min @2200psi I think, it's a serious took to wash stuff with, for sheds it's the only job, far quieter than the tractor and a lot easier to move about, 60ft hose length also helps a lot! Biggest problem we have is keeping water to it, a half inch pipe running off a good pump won't keep up!

Arthur

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #8

Got a mains washer by Karcher but if I was looking for a cold wash with output I'd be going for an engine one, neighbour uses a PTO one to wash his sheds, good output but all I hear for the day is his tractor at full chat, had a lad in to wash my sheds with a petrol washer and it was quietish, would cut back when he let go of the trigger and great to wash, the nozzle/jet is more important than absolute volume delivered, get a turbo nozzle if you are trying to shift cow poo.

Seedsower

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #9

if washing sheds or yards on occasion is the main job go for pto.
If washing down machines regularly a petrol is far handier as you don't need a second tractor.
Ive had a 5.5hp Honda for years and I find it perfect for my needs as any stronger would be harder on machinery and I rarely wash sheds or concrete.

Mine is set up all the time so its handy to wash fert spreader etc before taking it off.
Something I did recently was tap in to the main 1&1/4" pipe from the pump house and fit a 1" wash down hose which gives fair flow and power for washing off loose stuff.
Friend of mine did same but fitted a booster pump which is like a parlour wash down hose,great for filling sprayer too

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Dratted

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #10

PTO for sheds and yards, petrol for everything else, much easier on machinery and much quicker. Hose pipe onto the side of the washer and away you go.

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Mike

Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #11

Dratted said:

PTO for sheds and yards, petrol for everything else, much easier on machinery and much quicker. Hose pipe onto the side of the washer and away you go.

I agree, and a Honda engine if given any servicing at all will go forever.
Electric can be handy too, I have a Kranzle 135 here and its a good washer.

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aidank

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #12

how much is a diesel one these days? have a diesel one ~3000psi cant hold the lance with one hand

get one with a key start

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defender

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #13

Kranzle with a turbo lance will do most stubborn stuff ,we also have a small diesel washer ,ruggerini diesel that's about 10 hp I think ,for shed washing ,its noisy though but it was about half the price of the Honda diesel
The professional shed washing guy has a milk tanker with a 100 hp perkins and a pump that will operate 3 lances at 3000 psi at 20 litres . its hard work tied to it for a day

wdah

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #14

have a tractor and electric here, electric fine for cattle trailer etc, tractor one rarely on as its easier to switch on the electric. electric one is starting to mess about and the next will be engine drive probly petrol but maybe a static engine to drive the tractor one would suit us better, but a bit of engineering and time which we dont always have.

jack_c

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #15

If going for PTO look at landy washers,

http://www.landypressurewashers.com

They do one with a tank and all combined, seem like a good handy job.

Seem to be a handy setup but then again aren't cheap.

Just have a good electric one here but would like the higher pressure for washing out sheds

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BasilSeal

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2014
  • #16

I've got a diesel one with a yanmar l40 engine on it, it's astonishingly easy to start even though it's pull start only. you can just about lift it, or i tend to put it on a trolley and pull it round, it's a good while since we used to have one that fitted on the PTO but as i recall it was a massive balls compared to this one.

tinman

Very Senior Member
  • Sep 22, 2014
  • #17

JohnBoy said:

One of the many many machines on the shopping list is a power washer.

Have hired a few petrol ones recently and the 3000psi one was the job.

looking online this evening and PTO washers are way cheaper than petrol ones (obviously, no engine)

4000psi for 750
http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/4000-psi-power-washers-for-sale/7525520

http://www.jebbtools.ie/sip-13-hp-4000-psi-honda-pressure-washer

How does the hassle of mounting/dismounting the PTO pump balance against the hassle of maintaining another engine?

i suppose you have to ask yourself the question, am i willing to put it on the tractor and save myself a good part of 600 quid while im at it.
i have a few washers here, but ive been meaning to get a pto one, just for the sheds, indeed i had done a bit of research and it was the best value i could find, clarkes too, and unless im mistaken, a hawk pump, which is a top class pump.
4000 psi isnt anything to be sniffed at with a turbo head, it ill strip paint.
spanner is right about the noise of the tractor, unless you have 1000pto, its going to be loud, near full tilt on the rev.
the petrol is dearer, but if it was to be my only washer i was buying, id strive for the petrol one tbh.
its dearer, but i think it makes more sense.
unless that is, we get back to that 600 quid again...

JohnBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2014
  • #18

Thanks for the feedback folks, in summary pto for the big jobs, maybe a bit of a balls for the smaller stuff, maybe not ideal if its your only washer.

We have a 2kw electric Lavor for the smaller jobs anyway, and I've long had a notion of installing that semi permanently in the milking parlour for washing down machines. Think I might go pto for the big jobs so.

I have an axle and drawbar from a rotten cowbox too so an IBC with that and I'd be rightly setup

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Pippa

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2014
  • #19

Anyone using an electric power washer, or any other electric tool, with an extension reel please remember to unwind the reel fully. The heat generated in the extension cord can melt through the cover and cause a fatal electric shock especially as there is water involved. I think this was the cause of a fatal farm accident.

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defender

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2014
  • #20

Pippa said:

Anyone using an electric power washer, or any other electric tool, with an extension reel please remember to unwind the reel fully. The heat generated in the extension cord can melt through the cover and cause a fatal electric shock especially as there is water involved. I think this was the cause of a fatal farm accident.

more to the point make sure it is on a circuit breaker
Pto washer is ok if run on an old tractor but it is a very expensive way to be clocking up hours on a good tractor ,you would be cheaper buying a separate diesel washer

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Dratted

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2014
  • #22

Don't know what you lads are using it on that its noisy with high revs? We use it on a 70hp tractor and it will strip paint if you're not careful. That is with a turbo end though.

massey 6480

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2014
  • #23

Have pto washer at work definitely over20yrs old well past it's best but still gets the job done . Only downside is when the tractor has to be in the shed with you the noise of the tractor is hard on the ears . Neighbour called one evening and heard it working couldn't get over how loud it was . He has a petrol one and reckoned the cost of petrol against tractor burning diesel and clocking up hrs plus the noise swayed him towards petrol .

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mixedbag

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2014
  • #24

I have a long hose which was purchased for cleaning drains with the powerwasher, its a little more flexible than the standard powerwasher hose. We use it as an extension when powerwashing. Its a great job because you can leave the tractor outside, and don't need to be moving the tractor very often either while working.

Because its more flexible it is also seems to be less restrictive.

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Dratted

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2014
  • #25

Dratted said:

Don't know what you lads are using it on that its noisy with high revs? We use it on a 70hp tractor and it will strip paint if you're not careful. That is with a turbo end though.

Forgot to say we run it on tickover, amount of noise depends on the tractor [emoji14]

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