TurboClide
Terrarian
- Jan 19, 2024
- #1
Why?
- You get new items from the Dungeon and then you open Obsidian Chests literally 15 minutes after. It devaluates Dungeon chests' weapons.
- Every single key in the game is consumable, every single Boss Summoning Item, etc. It will fit.
Recipe: Golden Key + 5 Obsidian + Shadow Scale / Tissue Sample @Hellforge
- Although there is a recipe, Shadow Keys won't dissapear from Locked Golden Chests. But they'll be Consumables.
- Crafting stations is Hellforge, which is convenient because it is in the Underworld where Shadow Chests are.
- This recipe will evaluate Golden Keys so if Player want to open Shadow Chest he must stay in Dungeon for 35 minutes instead of 30
Stellar Mastodon 267
Terrarian
- Jan 19, 2024
- #2
No. I get maybe making the shadow key more rare so it can generate in fewer dungeon chest, but still no. This removes the uniqueness of the item.
Big Sammich
Duke Fishron
- Jan 20, 2024
- #3
This will negatively impact the Dungeon items, because players will be encouraged to not open chests in the Dungeon so that they can save their keys for Underworld chests.
TurboClide
Terrarian
- Jan 20, 2024
- #4
Big Sammich said:
This will negatively impact the Dungeon items, because players will be encouraged to not open chests in the Dungeon so that they can save their keys for Underworld chests.
Theoretically you're right. But practically you'll get about 10 keys per 20 minutes in the Dungeon. Those Dungeom Slimes spawns way too often.
zenithspeed
The Destroyer
- Jan 20, 2024
- #5
TurboClide said:
Those Dungeom Slimes spawns way too often.
what are you talking about? those things are so damn rare, i'm lucky to get a rare key from a pot or skeleton
TurboClide
Terrarian
- Jan 20, 2024
- #6
zenithspeed said:
what are you talking about? those things are so damn rare, i'm lucky to get a rare key from a pot or skeleton
I was in the Dungeon today. Killed 10 Dungeon Slimes under 30 minutes. Without Water Candles and luck boost.
Terrarian
- Jan 20, 2024
- #7
TurboClide said:
Why?
- You get new items from the Dungeon and then you open Obsidian Chests literally 15 minutes after. It devaluates Dungeon chests' weapons.
- Every single key in the game is consumable, every single Boss Summoning Item, etc. It will fit.
Recipe: Golden Key + 5 Obsidian + Shadow Scale / Tissue Sample @Hellforge
- Although there is a recipe, Shadow Keys won't dissapear from Locked Golden Chests. But they'll be Consumables.
- Crafting stations is Hellforge, which is convenient because it is in the Underworld where Shadow Chests are.
- This recipe will evaluate Golden Keys so if Player want to open Shadow Chest he must stay in Dungeon for 35 minutes instead of 30
No. That won't work. The 'one Shadow Key unlocks everything' is good enough considering that if you fish, you have to open loot boxes you fish from Hellstone/Obsidian crates as well. It would be too frustrating to return to the Dungeon just because first 20 chests (Normal player would craft as many keys as they have leftover scales/samples, which might not be enough to open the chests they want to open in weapon-limited runs) didn't have a weapon you wanted (considerably a rare thing, but can happen so, just a FYI).
zenithspeed
The Destroyer
- Jan 20, 2024
- #8
TurboClide said:
I was in the Dungeon today. Killed 10 Dungeon Slimes under 30 minutes. Without Water Candles and luck boost.
i mean to be fair, my RNG is godawful so it makes sense for others to have way more success getting keys
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leuaguewarriors
Terrarian
- Jan 20, 2024
- #9
Here is the thing; a shadow key is a possibility to find in a dungeon chest. If you were to use this method and craft the shadow key then there would be no point to opening any of the dungeon chest. People would instead simply stay in one place, farm gold keys, then go to hell instead of actually roaming the dungeon in search of treasure. It would achieve the opposite of what you are trying to promote. (also i don't like having to farm obsidian)
a really far away planet
Torch God
- Jan 20, 2024
- #10
TurboClide said:
Theoretically you're right. But practically you'll get about 10 keys per 20 minutes in the Dungeon. Those Dungeom Slimes spawns way too often.
cap... they spawn way rarer you're extremely lucky
LiterallyJustCarbon🌳
Skeletron
- Jan 20, 2024
- #11
Using a gold key to make a nerfed shadow key seems like it wouldn't be a good idea, though I'd like some use for all the spare shadow keys I get running through the dungeon apart from free gold. Plus, farming gold keys can be a pain in the backside at times, those dungeon slimes basically spin a wheel on whether or not they overflow me with keys or not spawn at all in my experience, and all of that just for the Hellwing Bow I'd like for the WoF? I'd rather stick to Beenades, they're surprisingly standing the test of time well, and prove broken against the Wall, atleast in Expert and under, which I use for all of my playthroughs.
a really far away planet
Torch God
- Jan 20, 2024
- #12
LiterallyJustCarbon🌳 said:
Using a gold key to make a nerfed shadow key seems like it wouldn't be a good idea, though I'd like some use for all the spare shadow keys I get running through the dungeon apart from free gold. Plus, farming gold keys can be a pain in the backside at times, those dungeon slimes basically spin a wheel on whether or not they overflow me with keys or not spawn at all in my experience, and all of that just for the Hellwing Bow I'd like for the WoF? I'd rather stick to Beenades, they're surprisingly standing the test of time well, and prove broken against the Wall, atleast in Expert and under, which I use for all of my playthroughs.
Shadow Keys could shimmer into regular keys maybe? Or they shimmer into like 2 or 3?
Big Sammich
Duke Fishron
- Jan 20, 2024
- #13
a really far away planet said:
Shadow Keys could shimmer into regular keys maybe? Or they shimmer into like 2 or 3?
This is what I would suggest. Shimmer (or another crafting recipe) one Shadow Key into three Golden Keys.
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